Bancroft – Queensland 2024

Possible upset LNP gain if they are going for a 50-55 seat majority. This seat is not just Deception Bay, it also contains my suburb of North Lakes (although I am moving to Melbourne this Tuesday)

North Lakes is a mortgage belt area, allot of young families, an area that Labor was bloodletting recently in federal elections due to their unpopular stances on Negative gearing. Allot of property development around here, a demographic that has recently shifted more to the LNP

This is also the area that witnessed the tragic murder of Emma Lovell just a couple of kilometres from where I still live. Locals around here are demanding more action and the LNP could capitalise on this during the campaign. Labor would absolutely be foolish and selfish to ignore this seat because this would be around 50-50 on federal figures, and on 2019 federal figures, an LNP strong win.

This was around 6-7% margin in 2017 state election, and barely swung at that election. I suspect there will be a huge correction and this seat will just fit the marginal category, but you cannot rule out an LNP gain if they play the issues right, and Labor continues to neglect this community.

While this may be home turf for Miles (Murrumba used to contain NL and DB) The youth crime issue will definitely flip this seat. LNP will likely gain this. If the youth crime issue was the main factor for Ipswich West. that swing would be enough to flip this seat as well.

And if you factor in the murder of Emma Lovell which will still be on the mind of voters in North Lakes, this seat is a prime target for the youth crime issue. If the LNP make this a youth crime election then they can win a whole bunch of seats like this, however if things don’t improve in the 4 years they are in power then these seats will return back to Labor.

This is in the federal seat of Petrie and this seat would be about 50-50 if you replicated 2022 federal to this.

I had Labor retaining Bancroft but I do think the Greater Moreton Bay region is ripe for change this time. Bancroft and Murrumba are yet to have LNP candidates endorsed, which seems odd. I suspect Labor will retain Kurwongbah and Morayfield. But Redcliffe, Murrumba, Bancroft and Pine Rivers are all in play.

@PRP we did discuss the very real possibility of Steven Miles losing his own seat of Murrumba. My predictions have it in doubt still because the margin is only 11% (safe but the LNP are projected to win in a landslide) but of course it is indeed the Premier’s seat.

If things look grim for Labor in the last few weeks, they might see the need to sandbag Murrumba – that will take resources away from somewhere else leading to further losses somewhere else.

My own electorate with a sitting ALP MLA. Chris Whiting has been MLA o\r Moreton Bay Regional Council (now City Council) Councillor since I moved to area from Redcliffe 20 years ago. HE has a strong local presence. He is well liked but whether he keeps the seat will depend upon the swing against the government. I expect the swing here to be less than the general swing.
Crime is an issue but Libs whilst being strong on crime when in opposition were just as bad as ALP when in government.
In 50 years, I have only voted for 1 ALP candidate and that was Chris Whiting last election. If he can get the vote of an old Grouper like me he shouldf not be written off.

AJ, Welcome back, it has been ages since we have seen you on here.

I agree this will be competitive, and one of the big unknowns is whether Miles can actually limit the swing in this part of SEQLD considering this is a neighbouring seat to his own.

But one of the most high profile youth crime incidents occurred in this seat and the LNP will hit hard here, especially in my former residence of North Lakes. If the swing is large enough in North Lakes alone, Deception Bay won’t be enough to save Labor.

Labor needs to remain competitive in North Lakes to have a shot of holding on. If early in the night the LNP are in the mid-late fifties on the TPP in North Lakes, then it’s over for them. I know this area well, Labor is not particularly liked federally here and on the state level they are starting to get their baseball bats out, but whether everyone is going first preference LNP is another question.

Tossup, possibly an LNP gain

Tonight I was hit with a telephone survey from a Polling organisation being conducted for an anonymous client. Sounded like LNP was client because they mentioned the name of LNP candidate.

ALP seems to be hitting petrol pricing reform measures fairly often.
Mark Ryan in adjoining seat of Morayfield is running a small business forum tomorrow. The photo that accompanies the advert purports to show a previous Small Business Network which appears have been very well attended with more than 60 attending.

My barber today told me that most of his customers think ALP will lose election and he is in a very strong ALP area just South of Morayfield and Bncroft.
I got my electricity bill today with a $1000 cost of living rebate from State Government on it resulting in a positive balance. This must have some impact on ALP vote.
50 cent train fares for those in outer suburbs are a big saving.
Burpengary Station reopens next Monday with lifts and wheel chair access. I have been on crutches for part of last year with a knee replacement and not having to climb the stairs will be a plus for State Government.
I am inclined to dissagree with my barber and think ALP will creep back in. If I was ALP I would be fifing photographs the Christafuli and Campbell Newman arm in arm a decade ago but of course some of us learnt our politics in close proximity to the good old days.

Andrew, although these positive benefits could also be spun as a ‘last ditch’ attempt by Labor to try and reconnect with voters which they could easily rebuff.

AJ, this seat or the state election?

As someone in Labor, I’m pretty sure we’re losing this election – however, I’ve been told that on the doors, voters in marginal Labor suburban seats in SEQ have actually been quite positive towards Labor. It’s just the media that paints the picture of a complete wipeout. Although it is important to note, voters in the regions are really turning against Labor.

Obviously, the signs are pointing to defeat in this election, however there looks to be a pathway for Labor back to victory in the next few election if they can hold their SEQ seats, and gain other marginals in SEQ (Glass House, Everton, Clayfield, Coomera, Burleigh, Theodore). There may even be a very slim chance that they could hold on at this election.

@A A I like your optimisim but unfortunately for the QLD ALP, given what’s happened in the NT over similar issues, I sense that the inner-city won’t be immune from a landslide either unless if Labor can miraculously do something amazing in the next 50 odd days or the LNP has a major scandal that plagues the entire party. Regions are finished, even Gladstone I reckon might be at risk given the swings in the NT in what was safe Labor seats like Nightcliff, Fannie Bay etc.

And I know that some people talk about how personal votes can play a role in keeping members elected. Again, the NT election spoke volumes of how wrong that could be. I reckon the likes of Miles, Grace Grace, Shannon Fentiman, Di Farmer, even Cameron Dick etc shouldn’t be cruising at the moment given that any of them have a chance of losing their seats whether they like it or not. Eva Lawler and Natasha Fyles both embarrassingly lost their seats to the CLP and Greens, even Michael Gunner might not have survived in Fannie Bay had he contested. I think no one in the ALP should take their incumbency for granted as there is genuine anger over the ALP in Queensland and the voters are ready with their baseball bats.

@AA Queensland will be worse than the NT because Albo won’t listen.

@Tommo9 from the very start I predicted massive swings in seats like Gladstone and Keppel, Gladstone I picked would be marginal and Keppel I picked would be quite safe. Everyone shut me down. Now I’m back predicting Gladstone will be more marginal than ever before.

I also think seats like Lytton and Sandgate are at risk, the former much more likely to fall than the latter though given the margin and the results in Wynnum Manly at the Brisbane City Council election earlier this year.

@Nether Portal you predicted a 27% primary swing against Labor in Keppel. I agree that Labor’s losing Keppel, but not to that extent. Gladstone will have a massive swing against Labor, and I’ve always believed that. But Labor will hang on.

Sandgate and Lytton are interesting, and could be wildcards on election night. However, the LNP don’t have a candidate in Lytton, and their candidate in Sandgate isn’t campaigning much.

Also, voters in Queensland can differentiate between Federal and State Labor. Just look at seats like Petrie, Longman, Capricornia, Bonner and Forde. Albo won’t really be a factor in how people vote at the state election. If anything, people in multicultural federal seats like Moreton, Oxley and Griffith will be turned off by Dutton.

@Tommo9 the LNP don’t have a candidate in Bulimba, which I find really odd. But any of those high profile MPs could easily be a surprise loss on election night, I agree. The Labor Left have been throwing all their volunteers and resources into campaigning for Fentiman – well before there was an LNP candidate – likely to sure up their preferred future leader’s safe seat.

Also, NT Labor lost a lot of votes to The Greens and independents for not being progressive enough, and backing the gas industry. However, in Queensland, the Labor government has had a lot of progressive policies and has been standing up to big coal companies through their coal royalties. Mostly because Steven Miles isn’t trying to move QLD Labor closer to the right, to compete with the LNP, like Eva Lawler did with NT Labor. Instead of racing with the LNP to be “tough on crime”, he’s running a progressive suite of policies focused on cost of living. So QLD Labor won’t see massive swings to The Greens.

Although I do disagree when you say that inner-city Brisbane won’t be immune to an LNP landslide. From my experience, people in the inner city (espeicially younger people) are happy with Miles’ policies, and there really isn’t a sense of change in the air. People in the inner-city also don’t by the LNP’s “tough on crime” approach, and know that the evidence says that locking up more kids won’t solve crime.

Lastly, the NT Election saw massive swings against Labor in the suburbs, and swings towards Labor in the regions. The Qld Election will be the opposite – massive swings against Labor in the regions and outer suburbs, and smaller swings against Labor as you get closer to the city.

”Redcliffe is a reasonably safe Labor seat and would likely only be in play if the LNP gained a big swing.”

Ben, I believe you mean Bancroft and that you accidentally copy and pasted the Redcliffe description here?

Daniel T
Survey was for Bancroft.

Sorry but I did not get name of Polling company, but they mentioned Carlson by name. I had not heard of him. Which does not say much for LNP local campaigning.

@Andrew jackson werent you the president

John
President of what?

@AJ, He is referring that you share the name with the 7th President of the United States Andrew Jackson.

But it seems irrelevant to the topic so I’ll just leave it at that.

Bancroft’s Profile shows 4 candidates on the ballot.
also says Labor member Chris Whiting is a former Burpengary real estate agent who had served on Caboolture Shire Council and its successor, Moreton Bay Regional Council, He has been aligned with the CFMEU, but remained in the Left faction after the union’s construction and mining divisions walked out of it in August 2020.
https://www.pollbludger.net/qld2024/LA.htm?s=Bancroft

Caleb
I have had dealings with Chris Whiting for twenty years. He has been aware of my links to both Katter and the DLP and at no time have I felt that he has not been a satisfactory representative for me in parliament. They have been issues on which I disagree with him completely But I have always had access to him. He certainly will be higher on my ballot paper than liberals. He has never made the sort of promise that for liberal candidates made in 2012 saying that no public servant need fear for their job or for that matter that they would repeal the civil unions legislation. This occurred at an Australian Christian lobby candidates forum In 2012. They all went on to win and in every case they failed to stand up to Newman and within hours of him taking Office he had established committee to investigate series of government owned enterprises which he eventually closed leaving hundreds of public servants without jobs.

I have now received an LNP flyer But I am yet to see anything written by the local LNP candidate.
There is independent standing in Bancroft, but I know absolutely nothing about him other than the fact that I spotted him standing by the side of the road in Old Bay Road A few days ago. Once again, he needs to do more than tell me his name to get my vote.
The last LNP Representative in Bancroft was Reg Gulley and in the three years he was an MP. I never said eyes on him. I always judge local representation against the standard of Vince Lester in Peak Downs who was visible at to me nearly every week when I lived in Blackwater and Lester lived 250 km away.
Chris Whiting does not meet this amazing standard, but he is far superior to what the liberal national party put up.
I am faced with the fact that I would prefer to see Chris Whiting as my Representative, but I am not certain whether I want Miles or Christafuli as Premier.

@ Andrew Jackson
Well written and honest statement of intention

My HTV if I still lived here based on party political positions.

1) LNP
2) ALP
3) PHON
4) IND
5) GRN

Sitting member hasn’t been a bad MP but I still want the LNP to win this seat due to Youth crime getting out of hand in this electorate, I was attacked by teens in 2022 at a train station in Mango Hill so I can tell you it is a massive issue, Crisafulli has a plan to give these Eshays adult time if they commit adult Crime, something Labor has failed to do.

One nation is running candidates that don’t even live in these seats and aren’t taking them seriously and the Greens are a complete joke due to the fact they call teenage criminals innocent and they legit want them to not be punished for their crimes, They would weaken the laws if they had any sort of balance of power and must be avoided at all costs.

There are ALLOT of LNP signs according to my father in North Lakes.

@Daniel T what are the views of the independent who’s running here (Barry Grant)?

NP, heard negative things about him, I think Andrew Jackson knows more I think one time he mentioned him on a previous year election thread.

I do recognise the candidates name so he definitely has ran before.

As a new citizen and first time voter I am very disappointed in the lack of communication from party representatives in the Bankroft electorate. The only one I know and see everywhere is ALP. If LNP wants to make an impression he will need to get out and start telling people what he stands for. I’m not even considering the smaller parties and independent so don’t really care about there point of views.

I used to live here a few years back – when I came back, I noticed that at least North Lakes was significantly more developed; it felt more like a gated community than the inner-regional suburb where I lived. Obviously, I have literally no reason to extrapolate the trend to the entire electorate when I haven’t lived there in ages, and not nearly enough political understanding, but I think this is where the LNP could hit Labor unexpectedly. 6% is only a margin to take for granted if the polls aren’t predicting a massive wipeout, and it could be decent to shore up support in ‘fairly safe seats’ and just cut the losses in the outer regions.
Youth crime is probably going to play a much larger role because of the very tragic murder of Emma Lovell, but I think that Bancroft isn’t where the issue was intended to be directed – youth crime is going down apart from in selected outer-regional cities, but the emotional impact is massive.

Big swing against Labor here but, line ball, LNP by an absolute whisker.

I have this as a tossup, leaning Labor. Larger-than-average swing to LNP here.

Ref Question about Barry Grant.
I have run into him at Kallangur Prepoll and spent half an hour with him
At Rothwell Prepoll. Campaign seems to be centred around not making preference deals. If a candidate thinks making deals is a bad thing what hope would his electorate have if he was Representative in Parliament. A successful independent needs to spend every waking minute negotiating ( ie making deals)
I already had cast my vote when I spoke to Barry Grant. He has been on the pre polls himself but his support has been minimal. A successful independent needs to make deals to get How to Votes into potential voters hands.
Like a lot of independents Barry Grant only campaigns on issues which we all agree on ie too much crime, inadequate health system, sub standard road infrastructure but he offers no solutions.
Nothing Barry Grant said persuaded me to regret voting for Chris Whiting in Bancroft and spending a lot of time backing for Scott Donovan in Murrumba who preferenced Liberals ahead of ALP.