Senate – Victoria – Australia 2025

After what Lidia Thorpe did yesterday to the King and Queen Consort and her previous incidents, she should be forced to resign from Parliament. She cannot be behaving like that as an elected official and quite frankly I don’t think anyone in their right mind would think she is fit for office.

@Tbh I’m in two minds yea she is but on the other hand she keeps a vote away from labor and the greens til at least 2028. She’s just after attention. Unfortunately until she’s convicted of a crime that carries at least 1 year in prison or is declared bankrupt no-one can.

@ Nether Portal
A few weeks ago Lidia Thorpe was kicked out of parliament for chanting “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free” while Penny Wong was speaking

I see some people only want freedom of speech when it’s speech they agree with. Nothing Lidia Thorpe said was an incitement to violence or persecution.

The Greens can jettison some of their negative perceptions onto her. She actually quit because she wasn’t willing to support incremental improvements – a claim unfairly thrown at Greens. Most of her campaigning has been on non material, student politics and identity politics type issues while Greens have campaigned more on issues like housing and cost of living. Palestine threw this off – nearly a full year of overwhelming Greens focus on an international relations issue that’s a hallmark of campus socialism. But I suspect as the election gets closer, Thorpe will still be talking about colonialism, while the Greens will talk about putting dental into Medicare. It’s helpful to the Greens to have political forces like Victorian Socialists distinctly to their left.

Agree BNJ and NP, Lydia Thorpe is behaving in a somewhat juvenile manner by engaging with these sort of stunts. It is a bad look for her, but I also agree with Wilson that unless she also committed violent acts or criminal behaviour then just participating in foolish stunts is not grounds on its own to be expelled from parliament.

@Wilson she made a post about beheading the King. If she did the same with the US President even if it was a joke she would be investigated by the Secret Service. It happened to Eminem when he criticised Donald Trump in a rap despite having no intention of hurting him. It happened to Elon Musk because of a tweet he made about the assassination of Trump and why it never happens to Democrats, and while Elon Musk is insane he doesn’t have any intention of assassinating Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

In America anyone who says anything they don’t like about the President will get investigated. This is an Australian elected official talking about murdering the Head of State. Why is she not being investigated? Just because she’s a politician?

Nether Portal, so you’re for authoritarianism and against freedom of speech?

Lidia Thorpe won’t be running for re-election. She still has 3 and a bit years left.

@Blue Not John, I agree your sentiments about identity politics and student politics and the differences between her and the Greens. She exhibits the sort of stuff you see on uni campuses.

What I find annoying is the amount of mainstream media and social media exposure given to her. She actually got publicity for free. The tirade didn’t even last a minute or a tiny fraction of the event but it was the leading story and made waves. There was little focus on the King’s speech or reception itself.

@Wilson no absolutely not, but I do believe there is a line in the sand for what’s considered free speech and calling for violence against someone is not free speech. It wasn’t even a joke and she’s an elected official who gets a massive salary and her stunts cost taxpayer money. Should she ever leave Australia she should be pulled up by Border Security and investigated just like any normal citizen would be for such comments.

@ NP
What is your view about her interupting Penny Wong as i stated above?

So you are for authoritarianism, Nether Portal.

I think it’s also quite silly and infantilising for people to compare a grown Aboriginal woman who is angry at the centuries of suffering of her people to student politics, where people usually do not have to live through the trauma of the cause they’re advocating for. It’s reductive and a bad comparison.

Alright this is off topic. Enough.

@np what are border security gon a do shes an australian cotizen so theycant do anything tostop coming back

@Nether Portal I don’t agree with kicking Lidiot Thorpe out of parliament, that would be a bit too far though a censure for her recent behaviour would be justified. In saying that, I largely agree with everything else you have said. She is the single biggest cooker in the entire parliament, and that’s saying a lot considering that Babet, Pauline, Rennick, Malcolm Roberts, Faruqi etc. exist.

I mean FFS, “I swore to the Queen’s hairs, not her heirs”? That sounds like something Jonah from Tonga would say.

I wouldn’t worry about Lidia Thorpe its more then likely that in 2028 she’ll lose her senate spot to the Greens and fade away. I’m expecting David Van to lose his spot to the Liberals in 2025 and in 2028 for Ralph Babet to lose his spot to either Labor or Liberal.

Lets be realistic. Stunts like this are her only chance of re-election. She couldn’t even hold Northcote for the Greens, let alone get anywhere near a quota even at a DD, no chance at a half Senate election.

It might be best to ignore Lidia Thorpe and deprive her of political oxygen. The “Queens Hairs” just shows her up to be immature and frankly a tad stupid.

WE CHEER! https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2024/11-11.htm

the chances of an election this year are now basically 0. the only 2 dates left are 21st and 28th of december.

@mostly she has no chance of reelection in 2028. the senate spots will go to the libs labor and greens the quota in vic is much higher then in act which got pocock elected

@James so the AEC has cleared up the grey area involving two candidates running for one seat?

@NP – basically yes. The jobsharers won’t be able to run and from memory can’t challenge it.

@James yeah they weren’t ever getting in anyway. The weren’t winning Higgins either, even if the AEC kept it they would’nt’ve won.

Yesterday the Senate censured Lidia Thorpe for her stunts and actions.

I am pleased to see this. Lidia Thorpe is an extremist. Her hate speech has no place in Australian society.

Member for the soon to be abolished federal seat of Higgins, Michelle Ananda-Rajah has announced she is running for Victorian Senate

@kent its abolished now. the redistribution was finalised on oct 17th.

There are financial implications in being;-a) removed democratically, versus, b) ‘retiring’.
The jurisdictions vary, but in Victoria, standing for election can add 6 months salary to one’s ’severance package’.

@phil Ananda-Rajah is obviously playing for that no way labor can win a 3rd seat even in victoria

Alright @john

@John – technically Michelle Ananda-Rajah is still the Member for Higgins. She still is in parliament, has an electorate office. That’s why AKD said she was ‘Member for the soon to be abolished federal seat of Higgins’. Her electorate technically has been abolished but it won’t take place until 2025/next federal election.

@james the correct statement would be the soon to be former member for Higgins. Higgins is abolished but she is still the member for Higgins since the election hasnt yet taken place.