Canterbury-Bankstown council election, 2024

Nether Portal: I don’t think I can remember a council election that has been Hijacked and made so divisive for Political gain based wholeheartedly on overseas conflict which has zero to do on a council level.
The targeting of Barbara Coorey is relentless and should really be addressed by the AEC to find out the instigations of such bias and hatred.

@CantWard NSW state and local elections are run by the NSWEC not the AEC. The AEC only runs federal elections and federal referendums.

Interesting thing I noticed but former East Hills MP Wendy Lindsay is running as #1 candidate for the Liberal ticket in Revesby Ward.

Nether Portal Yes Thanks. I stand corrected

James: It also struck me as odd Wendy Lindsay was one of those critical of Harwin for the complete mess he has made in submitting the Liberal candidates submissions.
I no doubt know she will win support. Hopefully she will not tolerate and can do something about the Persistent Bullying and intimidation that the minister for Local government has turned a blind eye to from the Labor councillors

Can someone please confirm if it’s true that labor Councillor Clare Raffan once ran on the Greens Ticket in Randwick in 2004

CantWard, are you a candidate in this election?

As far as I know, Labor is the only party that has reached the quota so far in last 2 elections for this ward. Councilor Raffan has been serving since 2017 for Labor, so I’m not quite sure why you’re referencing from 20 years ago or what is the relevance of the connection you’re making?”

I am in the alp (almost 50 years) and have never heard of Clare running for the greens.
Wonder why this is relevant
20 odd years after the so called event?

Can’t ward….. I noticed yr posts are very critical of Labor… maybe you should
advise of yr political alignment. I openly state I am a long-term member of the alp

Mick, I believe from previous posts about council elections from last cycle (2021) and some others about the 2022 Federal election – Cantward indicated that he/she has no party affiliation, just being someone who wants elected members to actually support the local community and not just offer ‘lip service’ which the major parties often do.

You An….. thank you. But I think. Canterbury ward should reply.

Mick he/she is probably out campaigning, you may see a reply this evening.

Hey I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Conroy Blood, I’m the Greens Candidate for Canterbury Budjar Ward. Below is a list of the policies I would like to bring if I get elected! If you would like any more specific details or my position on specific issues feel free to email me at conroybloodgreens@gmail.com

Cheers!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0-xJBSjNcjITA-E1qflKa8u6x2a2jxjI2en3Mcljxw/edit

Mick . Yes sure. I’m a swinging voter dependent in the candidates. I’ve become a swinging voter only because of the quality of councillors we have. Wheres do your allegiance lay?

YL Machinist : I’m not in the running I kind of wish I were. Given the way the council is being run dependent on what ward you live in.

YL_Machinist. I only wish I were running given the Libs were too incompetent to run genuine candidates that actually care about the council area.
Are you are Labor diehard too?

Yoh An. You’re absolutely Correct. I’ve seen council areas which have been totally revamped whilst other areas have been abandoned and taken for granted because it’s a comfortable Labor vote which never requires campaigning. A council is only as good as how the worst council areas are. I wondering if the Greens can ever manage to change that or are they too out of touch with the working class suburbs?

YL _Machinist . The point I’m making is Clare Raffan is Basically a Greens candidate. If you were to vote for Clare it’s the same as voting for the Greens . their policies and thoughts and policies are basically the mirrored. I think it’s relevant that people are open and honest about their past political campaigns not try and disguise who they actually supported in the past. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. I’ve seen pathetic candidates and politicians from both sides that don’t deserve to be defended.

Cantward, I don’t think the Greens are out of touch with working class suburbs. In Brisbane, the party made huge inroads into some areas that were not natural turf for them (mostly areas around Moorooka, which correspond roughly to suburbs like Liverpool, Cabramatta and Fairfield for Sydney).

Cantward – whilst some candidates change party affiliation because of strategic reasons, other times it is because they have a falling out with their old party and see another one as a more ‘natural’ home. This was the case with Cheryl Kernot (former Democrats Senator) who disagreed with the direction of the party’s leadership and close ties with Liberal PM John Howard in terms of support for GST, so she defected to Labor.

I believe Clare Raffan could be a similar case. She has left leaning views but perhaps saw the Greens as too extremist in the past, so she defected to Labor.

Other examples would be Mark Latham and Tania Mihauluk, both ex Labor members who were more libertarian minded. They felt they could no longer be part of a Labor Party that was geared more towards progressive interests, so they switched to One Nation.

I do not think I have seen such a Hateful, dysfunctional, divisive spiteful self serving council election ever.
The sabotaging and destruction of corflutes of the independents because they pose a threat to votes from those of the left with Labor running an anti Israeli campaign to win against the Muslim candidates for their vote and then running stooge independents to leech away votes from other Greens candidates, the Greens running in every ward for the first time I can remember also trying to capitalise on the Palestinian conflict to further their own political interests. Then the hopeless Liberals being so embarrassingly unorganised and stupidly inept to “forget” to lodge their candidates forms in.
Canterbury Bankstown residents and ratepayers deserve a better quality of council and I doubt it’s served by anyone in any of the parties as it’s become blatantly evident they’re only in it for themselves.

@Yoh An

Referring to your comments about the greens getting votes in Moorooka in Brisbane, that area has changed a lot.

While it used to be a working class multicultural area, it has gentrified in the past few years. There’s a lot of white wealthy professional families moving in, and the area has become a desirable inner-city suburb. That’s why the green vote has gone up.

I’m not too familiar with Sydney, but I would probably compare Moorooka to parts of the inner west

Although Moorooka is definitely not similar to Cabramatta or Fairfield anymore. It is now a gentrified inner city suburb.

The closest thing I could think of to Cabramatta and Fairfield in Brisbane are Acacia Ridge, Inala, Darra and Forest Lake. All of which are solidly working class Labor areas, although they are showing signs of gentrification as house prices go up.

Yoh An, You’re correct. Although the lurch to the left has been extremely sharp and forceful. No one does hate and protest better than the left which is why there is so much hateful divisive politics and campaigning as we’ve seen from the Labor councillors.
The huge skew has resulted in the traditional worker party : ALP abandoning their positions and abandoning the working class opting of the university educated, inner city white collar, public service job elitist.
There is now no difference between Labor and the Greens and the LNP have taken up the mantle of Traditional Labor.

@cantward… I have been a member of the alp for almost 50 years. Our party in canterbury Bankstown council has not been involved in destroying other people’s cornflakes nor have We run Dummy candidates

Cornflutes

@yoh.. Tania acted from pure opportunism no one else would give her a seat besides onp
Re Mark I think you assessment may have been right he was a member of the liberal democrats before onp
He saw that onp Was under performing and seized an opportunity
Funny now onp has only one mp Tania
With a bit of luck they will win no seats at the next state election

Try again corflutes

Cantward if you spent some time around Canterbury you would notice that the greens and labor corflutes have been ripped off the cooks river footbridge. Also RE the Greens only one of their Candidates is Muslim and Palestine is one little dot point in their policy doc. Too busy on the campaign trail I suspect…

CantWard: Yes, I’m a Labor supporter because I believe they genuinely care about our community and its long-term needs. Unlike the Independents, who seem to have missed the mark, Labor stands for policies that reflect the values and priorities of our area.

@ Mick Quinlivan. YL_Machinist , This council election I’m torn on who’s worthwhile of a vote.
The Blatant vote chase of Labor tactics for the BDS has inflamed the community and caused unwarranted division this has turned me off Labor. What’s it got to do with Rates Roads and Rubbish ?
I cannot for the life of me see how Labor’s stance against Israel can benefit the LGA . It will only hurt residents and ratepayers
I’m all for fierce and challenging political debate but using controversial international politics to further your own personal agenda is beyond the Par.
The Greens do support and will push for the BDS and hang the consequences on the cost passed on to residents. The Greens have no candidates with experience in council and are newbies whom are ignorant to councils finances and operations.
The independents are an unknown entity. the exception is Barbara Coorey who is confusing on her stance with Palestine. She supported the Palestinians with flying the flag but opposed the BDS. She’s been pilloried threatened and intimidated for it when he basic tenet is to keep council local but she’s put her toe in already with the flag flying
OLC has Stavrinous who doesn’t live in the area and was once a Randwick councillor.
The Libetarian parties have zero information or input on local issues.
Unity is ultimately a vote for Greens and Labor.
The random independents are blow ins some who have been set up by Labor.
I cannot see a self declared Muslim vote independent who isn’t a Palestinian affiliated voter.
Liberals are a lost cause- pfft. They’re too too lazy to put up credible candidates and can’t help but regurgitate old ones with the same stale ideas.
If Labor would clear the decks with new candidates they would be a tempting choice but they’re ancient self interested , self serving individuals thinking more about themselves and their vote than the voice of the residents.
At the moment a dart drop leaving it to chance would be a better choice. We seriously need a better quality of Candidate for the LGA

@ Cantward
Are the following Liberal councillors pro-BDS i am interested to know if they are pro-Palestine?

Mohammad Zaman
Cr Sazeda Akter

T3enjoyer.
At the last by-election for Strathfield news stories circulated that the Liberal Candidates corflutes were being destroyed by Labor supporters.
The news cycle showed the footage.
It’s actually news to me that Labor and Greens corflutes have gone missing as I
seen none around with the exception of Bankstown where Labor have plenty.
I have not been near the cooks river.
I understand council under clause 356T has the right to remove and confiscate posters displayed in contravention of the Regulation including posters displayed on Crown or council controlled land and posters displayed on private land without the owner’s permission.
Do you know if they were vandalised like Cooreys or were they removed entirely?
It’s hard to guess Who would remove Labor corflutes except Greens or Labor supporters worried a 10k fine if evidence is presented.
Its become a dark callous vindictive council election

Canterbury council is not evil incarnate run by the devil. Barbara Corrie was on Canterbury council before she was not reelected then.. to describe her as eccentric is a mild expression so please be careful how you view her role. I know most of the Labor councillors and they are good people trying to do the best they can for their constituents. There is no reason for the minister to sack the council

I repeat the alp in Canterbury Bankstown council.are not destroying other groups corflutes or running Dummy candidates

Mick I have known too many residents who have attempted to contact Labor councillors and they’ve failed them at every point. It’s just the way it is when they’re the incumbent who take their safe Labor spot for granted. Clare Raffan is not even campaigning and I’ve seen very few corflutes. Yet Labor have had of history of spite with other candidates corflutes that’s just the way it is unfortunately

I stand by the content of my last two statements

“Clare Raffan is not even campaigning and I’ve seen very few corflutes.”

Well I live in Earlwood and I can confirm that Clare Raffan came around our house the other day. So this is factually incorrect.

Sadly I was out, otherwise I would have asked about what she is doing to reverse the ridiculous rate rises that we’ve had to bear since Bankstown council took over.

Gavin – if it is anything to go by then in my former council area of Parramatta, they didn’t really do much about rate changes. I recall receiving some pamphlet from council about ‘harmonising’ rates so that those originally from other council areas (like Hornsby where I had been transferred from) pay same rates as those from the original council area following the 2016 council mergers, but other than that they have been pretty silent.

Mick Quinlivan agreed with both of your statements, and if I may add, despite C@ntWard’s frequent praise and victim portrayals of Barbara Coorey, there is news to the contrary. According to previous news reports, Barbara Coorey has been censured three times, though some sources suggest the actual number might be a lot higher. This pattern of censures points to a concerning trend in her behaviour, especially in her treatment of council staff. She has been described as a “bully”, with multiple instances of her actions being scrutinised for creating a hostile environment within the council.

Overall, she doesn’t appear to be a very productive councillor—just generating a lot of noise without real results like other independents. So;

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@ YL_Machinist. I can understand where you’re coming from and Its obvious that you think Labor can do no wrong.
It’s a Labor party threat that’s hogging most the conversation when it comes to safe Labor seats like Canterbury: Bankstown or Watson
Thats also how fundamentalism works.
Labor are certainly not the party they once were. They don’t represent the workers and are more for the university educated NIMBYs
Don’t got one second believe that Labor actual care about the residents.
Labors current crop of out of touch councillors have Divided the electorate not out of genuine concern for Palestinians or those suffering in Gaza. They’ve done it purely for a political stunt .
They’ve done it out of fear and trepidation of the Muslim vote. It’s sinister, it’s callous,it’s hateful and it’s wrong in so many ways.
I just hope the Islamic voters can see that they’re being used by Labor whose behaviour is that of rats with a gold dentures.
As for Barbara coorey, I’ll give it to you that she is divisive. She’s been censured many times because she’s an independent. but you have to admit she always stays on track with council issues. She said she would chase a demerger and to her credit she has kept her word unlike Karl Saleh who also promised to fight for a demerger and has not done one single thing to further it except talk about it to win a seat.
The somersaults and the backflips of the Labor councillors are something that Simone biles would be envious of regarding their lies about a demerger.
No one should vote for liars

@ Nimlan. The Bankstown councillor didn’t vote for the BDS because he didn’t attend the council meeting
This has become common practice where councillors don’t turn up on council agenda votes that would affect their party’s stance or their own personal view. 2 Liberal councillors in one in Revesby and one in Bass Hill voted against the BDS along with 2 independents from Canterbury. Labor majority stomped it out with all voting for a BDS
Sazeda Ackter is Mohammad Zaman wife. He was not endorsed at the last election because of bankruptcy proceedings His wife was instilled instead. Dazed also ran as the Liberal Candidate for Watson which became a joke because of her lack of engagement with the electorate where she just vanished. Channel nines a current affair had a segment on her lack of interest.
To answer your question I do not know for certain but IMO Zaman is aiming for the pro Palestinian vote and he will support the BDS.

@Mick. The independents are too disorganised to worry about being spiteful. If what you say is true and you say it’s not Labor who have a reputation and are known for politics of spite. One can only surmise it to be the Greens who have supported and preferenced Labor in 3 wards including Canterbury where all the vandalism is occurring.
Dont forget that Clare Raffan was a Greens candidate in Randwick.

@Cantward The graffiti of Barbara Coorey’s corflutes have been sporadic and inconsistent. If any political party wanted to destroy corflutes i’m sure they would do a much better job. All this indicates to me is that maybe one or two people who were upset with Barbara Coorey for opposing the BDS motion are doing this. The council meeting was widely covered in media, and there is mass support for Palestine in large parts of our community. For you to straight up blame political parties with no backing or evidence is just shit stirring. People constantly graffiti corflutes in isolated attacks. This is nothing new or unprecedented.

@cantward the liberal democrat corflutes on the cooks river bridge survived so it definitely not councils doing

T3enjoyer. If you look at past political history no one does hate, protest and division better than Labor and the Greens.
Many of the candidates who are running in CB have no doubt marched in political protests.
To tear down a political opponents corflute is destruction of property, it’s intimidation and it’s trespass.
Dismiss and argue their policies all you want but do not try and deny them the right to stand as a candidate and that’s exactly what these imbeciles are doing
It’s infantile and petty.
The Strathfield By election had the Liberal candidates corflutes vandalised so the Labor precedence is set. I’m sure the videos are still available from channel nine seven and Ten. How’s that for allegations
It’s only Shit stirring when facts overwhelm the opinion you have and you seriously can’t try and dismiss or defend the fact that these things have actually happened in the past.
Nothing could be more stuffed up than the run up to these council elections.
I would like to see True independents in every ward elected just to shake things up.

Agree Cantward, for Brisbane it was Greens candidate for mayor Jono Sririnigathan who whilst did not commit any criminal acts himself was nevertheless involved with ‘foolish’ acts like putting out a how to guide to steal or rob businesses, as well as being involved with other protest movements.

T3enjoyer regardless of which political parties or individual own corflutes
They shouldn’t be on council , public or crown land.
The fact that council has to spend ratepayers money on cleaning up candidates deliberate act of littering is reason enough to be against it.
The main Point is It’s against the law.
Council can and will remove them as they have in the past.

Yoh An. I genuinely think politics is getting grubbier than it’s ever been.
Councillors think they’re more important than they really are.
Their role is simple It’s called LOCAL GOVERNMENT for a reason. They should keep it local.
Labor have genuinely without a doubt hit their lowest point and it’s disgusting trying to Hijack the Palestinian suffering to win over the Islamic votes.
Many years ago a NSW politicians husband was caught spreading information and vandalising a rivals corflutes. I think it cost her the seat
I hope there’s some Karma in these elections.