11:10 – That list of seats has changed a bit since I started on this bit of analysis 40 minutes ago, and the last seat is South Brisbane.
The gap between the ALP and LNP has shrunk as the pre-poll votes have reported. Greens MP Amy Macmahon needs the LNP to climb into second place to win. The gap is now 3.1%, but it seems likely that will shrink further. The only other candidate in the race is from One Nation, and they have polled just over 3%. So it is quite possible that One Nation preferences to the LNP could elect a Greens MP.
Incidentally, I think there’s three seats where it would be super helpful if the ECQ could conduct a 3CP count – South Brisbane (do the LNP make it to the top two?), Mulgrave (does KAP make it?) and Rockhampton, where Margaret Strelow is probably coming third but is not so far behind that I can rule out her making it to the 2CP.
11:04 – Labor’s Ali King is on 55.3% in Pumicestone’s 2PP, but the pre-poll vote is not as advanced as in most other seats, and the ABC is projecting that will drop to 51.4%, which will be a nail-biter.
11:02 – In Pine Rivers, the LNP’s Dean Clements is on 51.9%, but the ABC computer expects that to climb to 52.9%. Hard to see Labor winning here.
10:58 – Mulgrave remains very messy. The ALP has a very narrow lead on the raw 2CP but the ABC computer is expecting the LNP to take the lead, and I think that makes sense. But the bigger question is whether KAP can catch up on the major parties and win, and we won’t be able to answer that until a full distribution of preferences, or at least a 3CP, is counted. I think if KAP remain in third place on the 3CP, the LNP has probably won.
10:54 – KAP candidate (and ex-One Nation MP) Stephen Andrew has taken the lead in Mirani. His lead is 50.5% on raw figures, but the ABC computer is projecting that to climb to 50.9%.
10:53 – Maryborough is interesting because Labor is behind on raw figures, but the ABC computer expects they will pick up to 50.7%. That isn’t the trend you’d normally expect.
10:50 – By a coincidence Maiwar has just moved to in doubt on the ABC just as I reached it alphabetically. Berkman’s 2CP lead is 51.13% on raw figures, but the ABC computer is projecting he’ll fall behind. Definitely one worth watching.
10:44 – In Macalister, Labor is on 51.6% of the 2PP on raw figures, but the ABC projects that this will drop to 50.3%. That would be explained by a number of special votes booths yet to report and obviously it’s too close to call before those come in.
10:32 – In Gaven, the raw 2PP has Labor’s Meaghan Scanlon on 51.1%, and the ABC projection expects that will drop to 50.5%. That seems to be because of an expectation that the remaining votes will be a bit weaker for her, which makes sense to me. And this is why the seat isn’t locked in as a Labor retain.
10:28 – In Cook, Labor MP Cynthia Lui is on just 44.3% of the raw two-party-preferred, but a number of ordinary booths are yet to report let alone pre-poll and other special votes, and the ABC is projecting Lui to get to 48.5%, and I can see why they don’t want to call it yet, but they’ve got it as a likely LNP gain.
10:25 – I think there’s eleven seats worth watching now. I’m going to run through them one by one now.
- Cook
- Gaven
- Macalister
- Maryborough
- Mirani
- Mulgrave
- Pine Rivers
- Pumicestone
- Redcliffe
- Redlands
- Rockhampton
9:50 – The Greens look set to increase their statewide primary vote but losing support in the inner city. We saw this in the ACT, and in the NSW council elections too. And it’s a bad result if you want to win single-member electorates. This contrasts with history over the last decade where the Greens often picked up more single-member seats while their primary vote stood still.
9:48 – LNP now leading in 13 Labor seats, plus Mirani, minus Ipsiwch West. That’s 48 seats total.
9:39 – This has been slowly creeping up on us but I think the LNP is on the verge of winning a majority and they are the only viable government now.
This has been quite a respectable result for Labor considering the polls at the start of this campaign, but they just don’t have the space for a Labor government.
9:18 – Okay so if we look at the 23 Labor seats held on margins of 10% or less, the LNP has gained six, they are likely in three more, are ahead on early counting in Hervey Bay, and are narrowly ahead in Rockhampton. That currently puts them on eleven gains, plus they are leading in Mirani. Subtract their loss in Ipswich West, and that puts them in the lead in 46 seats.
Labor has retained five seats in that 0-10% range, and are narrowly ahead in six others. Their lead is slightly bigger in Cook (which the ABC has called).
Labor has retained all but two seats above 10%. The only exceptions are Maryborough (Labor narrowly ahead) and Mulgrave (LNP ahead of Labor but KAP also in with a chance).
So if you add in Mulgrave to the LNP’s leads, they are currently leading in 47.
9:06 – I haven’t really paid attention to Mirani, where Stephen Andrew is the sitting MP. He’s running for Katter’s Australian Party after losing One Nation preselection. His former party is preferencing the LNP, and they are narrowly in front. If the LNP won here, that would get them one seat closer to that majority. Combine that with a Labor gain in South Brisbane and that would mean a crossbench shrinking from seven to five.
9:03 – So thinking about pre-poll and postal votes. The election predictions rely on matched swing – basically it takes into account pre-existing differences between election day and early votes, but assumes that the swing will be similar. If pre-poll vote is more favourable to the LNP, but the change is similar to election day, then the current numbers will be roughly right. But if the pre-poll swing is bigger than the election day swing, then we’ll probably see a few seats where Labor is leading flip to the LNP.
This is sort of what happened in NSW – the swing to Labor was smaller on pre-poll, and the prospects of a Labor majority faded.
8:52 – So how far up the pendulum is this race close? Looking at seats Labor holds by 12% or more, there are just two where the race is close. One is Mulgrave (12.2%) and the other is Logan (13.4%). They are leading in both but they are close – Mulgrave has already been explained, and Labor has a 1.8% lead in Logan.
Amongst the 12 Labor seats on margins of 7-12%, Labor is leading in every seat. I did a quick check of all these, the ABC website has only called Maryborough. I think they are well ahead in Cooper, Ferny Grove, Murrumba and Bulimba. They’re leading by a decent lead but not quite as big in five others. Only in two of these seats is it very close – Capalaba and Rockhampton.
Things are much messier in the seats under a 7% margin, but Labor is still leading in many seats. Labor is leading in 10 of these 18 seats, the LNP is leading in eight.
So on those numbers, right now Labor has regained Ipswich West and South Brisbane, and is trailing in eight others. That would be a net loss of six, which would leave them on 45 seats. There are 11 others where the ALP lead is quite narrow. If they lost all of those seats, that would give the LNP a majority.
8:25 – It’s worth pausing on Mulgrave. This Cairns-area seat has been held by Curtis Pitt since 2009, but he’s retiring. The preference count has Labor narrowly ahead of the LNP, but Labor is leading with the primary vote of just over 25%.
Katter’s Australian Party are third on 16.1%, and over 38% of the vote is with the other candidates: just over 8% each with Legalise Cannabis and independent David Raymond, One Nation on 7%, another independent on 6.5%, and Greens on 4.3%. KAP is just 4% behind the LNP and they would have a good shot of winning if they can get into the top two.
8:09 – A bit of a summary of the state of play after 8pm:
- Labor is definitely losing seats, but the number of lost seats is small, and all in the north of the state. In the marginal seats, the margins remain very slim and Labor is leading in many of them.
- At the moment it’s hard to see Labor retaining their slim majority but the LNP isn’t quite getting enough of a swing for a majority.
- The result has not been particularly impressive for the crossbench. KAP hasn’t been competitive in Townsville or Cairns seats, the Greens are not gaining any seats and are in serious danger of losing South Brisbane, and Margaret Strelow is in a distant third place in Rockhampton.
7:57 – The LNP also has a very narrow lead in Rockhampton, where independent Margaret Strelow is clearly in third.
7:56 – Looking at a list of the most marginal Labor seats (those under 6%), the LNP only has a substantial lead in Keppel, Thuringowa and Mundingburra. They have slim leads in Caloundra, Barron River and Townsville, but those are bouncing around.
In case you don’t know Queensland geography, three of those six seats are in Townsville, one is in Cairns, one is a large regional seat north of Rockhampton, and just one is in the south-east – Caloundra, my current location.
7:48 – Earlier on I was talking about the LNP needing to gain 12 seats to win a majority (13 if they don’t retain Ipswich West, which they have not). But it seems more relevant to point out that Labor needs to lose 5 seats to lose their majority. Right now the ABC has called a Labor gain in Ipswich West, and losses in Keppel, Mackay and Townsville, which would put them on 49. I think it’s likely they’ll lose their majority but not at all certain.
7:45 – As Antony is saying now on TV, there is a clear regional divide – smaller swings away from Labor in Brisbane (the inner city in particular) than in regional Queensland.
7:38 – The easiest path for the Greens to win seats is for Labor to drop into third place, and then win on Labor preferences. The LNP is preferencing Labor, so the Greens would need a decent primary vote lead to win if Labor is in second.
When it looked like Labor would be beaten badly, it seemed like the Greens could win a number of inner-city seats by coming second and winning on Labor preferences. But right now the Labor vote is holding up quite well there. The Greens have a chance of coming second in Cooper, but LNP preferences would then re-elect Labor. And in South Brisbane, where the LNP reversed their 2020 preferences to instead preference Labor, Greens MP Amy Macmahon could be in trouble.
7:33 – Right now there are a lot of marginals that are very close and not many that are clearly flipping to the LNP. Looking at the 15 most marginal Labor seats (those held by 6.3% or less), Labor has a big lead in one (Thuringowa), they are narrowly in front in 7, the LNP. has a big lead in Mundingburra and Keppel, very slim leads in Nicklin and Barron River, and slightly bigger leads in Townsville and Cook. We also have no data from Hervey Bay.
A small boost in the LNP position could see them win a clear majority from those seats, but on current figures it would be enough to just push Labor into minority but not get the LNP close to a majority.
7:26 – Aspley is Labor’s tenth-most marginal seat. Remember the LNP needs to win twelve seats to win a majority. Right now Labor is slightly ahead with some real preferences in.
7:22 – Another odd seat is Thuringowa, where the ABC’s preference projection has Labor up 4.3%. But this seems quite messy, with Labor’s primary vote down, the LNP primary up, and both KAP and One Nation down. An independent, seemingly a left-leaning one, is on almost 5%.
In the other two Townsville-area seats, Townsville and Mundingburra, Labor’s modest margins look set to fall.
7:18 – The LNP has a big lead in Barron River, but things are much less positive for them in neighbouring Cairns and Mulgrave. The projected swing in Cairns is 3.6%, which would leave the LNP 1.9% short. And there’s basically no swing in Mulgrave – admittedly a seat with a bigger margin, but held by a prominent MP who has held the seat for 15 years.
7:14 – The expected swing to the LNP is also quite modest in Caloundra, Labor’s fourth-most marginal seats. Jason Hunt is also a first-term MP.
7:13 – The ABC has already called Bundaberg (Labor’s most marginal seat) as a Labor retain, and now it looks like they are leading in Nicklin, their second-most marginal seat. Both had first-term Labor MPs.
7:10 – There are a range of swings, and it seems likely the LNP is on track to win, but it’s not enormous. Looking at Stephen Miles’ seat of Murrumba, it looks like there’s no swing at all after preferences (based on ABC preference estimates).
7:02 – The ABC has the ALP in front in South Brisbane on one tiny booth because they are coming second and now benefit from LNP preferences. I wouldn’t rely on that for anything. Interestingly we have more data from Maiwar and Labor is up. If they overtook the LNP that could get interesting but still quite early.
The Greens are in third in Miller, just behind the LNP, but they’d need to do a lot better to win. Numbers are very small in Cooper, and non-existed in McConnel and Greenslopes.
6:56 – The Labor swing in Bundaberg has calmed down a bit but Labor is still winning there. I haven’t seen any other seats bucking the trend – generally there are respectable swings to the LNP all over the place.
6:54 – A bit more data in Thuringowa also has KAP in a respectable third there.
6:48 – Tiny samples in the three Townsville-area seats of Townsville, Thuringowa and Mundingburra. KAP is in third in Townsville and Mundingburra, and practically no votes in Thuringowa.
6:43 – One thing worth watching tonight is whether first-term MPs gain a “sophomore surge”. An example worth watching is Labor’s most marginal seat, Bundaberg, where first-term Labor MP Tom Smith has a 10% primary vote swing on a small vote sample.
6:36 – There are numbers now but they are very small so I’ll wait before posting analysis.
6:11 – The Courier Mail has an exit poll which is reporting Labor and LNP with even primary votes in 10 seats, which is being reported as showing the race as close, but:
- The seats selected have an average Labor margin of 7.6%.
- The poll is ony conducted on election day, where Labor generally does better than at pre-poll.
- These figures are primary votes. While the ALP probably doesn’t do quite as well in preferences in Queensland as they do in some states, it still confuses things.
So if they are neck and neck on primary votes on election day in these marginal seats, they are probably losing as expected.
6:00 – Polls have just closed in Queensland for the 2024 state election. I will be covering the election tonight here at the Tally Room, at least as long as the website can handle the traffic. If the website collapses, I will move over to Tally Room in Exile.
Throughout the campaign, and frankly the whole year, the expectation has been that the LNP would win a large majority, but in the last few weeks there have been a number of polls showing a much closer race, although the LNP remains in the lead.
Follow along with me tonight – I expect we’ll get results from around 6:30.
Not much chance of ALP falling to 3rd in south Brisbane I mean. Greens seem to have win the primary vote in most booths but not by enough and the exclusion order kills them.
Interestingly if Crisafulli reinstates OPV they might be better positioned to win it back.
I reckon lnp can still get too low to mid 50s.
@bnj mcm won’t be that worried I don’t think.if he loses its cause he suffered a collapse. Greens didn’t collapse in south Brisbane they just lost lnp preferences
To reinstate opv is wrong.
The system should not be changed to advantage one political party
@John – that’s true, the LNP need to fall into 3rd for there to be implications and they should do better with a QLD leader and no incumbency bonus for Butler (although Butler’s incumbency may have been not much of an “asset”). Still the lack of a sophomore surge for McMahon is concerning. Berkman dramatically boosted his vote in his first term at the expense of both major parties.
I predicted a narrow lnp majority or a hung parliament… this seems likely
Greens have a slight swing to them statewide, 1%-ish. Hardly disastrous. They’ve cracked 20% in Stretton and Toohey (as well as Miller), which should be a good omen for Moreton next year.
@mick and who determines that? I could argue fpv advantages Labor
@bnj still I predicted she would lose. She only won because the lnp wanted to get rid of trad. If she was still there she’d likely be premier atm
@bird the disaster is the vote didn’t translate into seats. They convincing lost Sb and almost lost maiwar
Anyone know what happened in Bundaberg?
Labor was on a margin of 9 votes but the Labor primary vote went up whilst LNP’s went down.
The vote in Cook is representative of a split in the KAP vote. If KAP finished second he’d easily win on lnp and onp party preferences. This might be interesting to see the 3cp after pwards
With a decent amount in, we can say Townsville finally fell! Just took 1-2 elections later than most, including myself, expected.
Looking at all the swings currently, LNP recorded a swing to them on 2CP on every seat except Bundaberg, Cooper, Hinchinbrook, McConnel, South Brisbane and Traeger. Bundaberg is the biggest surprise for me of the night. Those other seats are, interestingly, all Green/Inner-City Targets or KAP Seats.
KAP is an interesting case. +4.5% in Hinchinbrook on primary but smashed with -9.1% in Traeger and -10.9% in Hill. The latter simplistically explained by ONP running and some going to LNP. I don’t think this issue over Abortion affected them much in their currently held seats. As for the Townsville seats, hard to say if that really was an impact.
As for big swings, check out the -24.7% off Labor in Mulgrave. That’s half their vote gone on primary…ouch!
@votNte only at 22.9% counted according to animal wells 70% was prepolled. Expect lnp to regain it when that comes in
BREAKING: ASPLEY LNP GAIN
Amanda Cooper has 52.5% TPP, +7.7% swing to the LNP.
BREAKING: MILES ARRIVES AT LABOR HQ IN MURRUMBA DOWNS
Also the south Brisbane e result can be attributed to the lnp taking votes off lab and the greens then swinging Labor back into the seat through preferences and tbh the lnp isn’t far off pushing Labor out of the 2cp which would hand the seat back to the hreens
Maryborough bellwether seat?
Miles is making stupid remarks, he just said the LNP isn’t likely to form majority. Does he realise that the LNP have 44 seats and need 47 to win government? There are 10 seats in doubt and I guarantee they’ll win at least three of them which gets them to majority.
Labor are ahead in Gaven, Macalister, Maryborough and Pumicestone. The LNP are ahead in Mirani, Mulgrave, Nicklin, Pine Rivers, Redlands and Rockhampton.
@np I’d wager those 4 Labor ahead seats will swing back to the lnp after prepoll and postal given the low count
ABC has un-called Redcliffe and Redlands
I can’t believe the results in Bundaberg. Like that’s a genuine shock. I’m glad to be proven right in Cooper and McConnel, people underestimate Jonty Bush and Grace Grace’s personal vote. They also underestimate how popular Steven Miles and Labor are in inner-city seats (especially with young people) because of 50c fares.
Now the Greens are recording a primary vote swing against them in Moggill. The general theory was that having a Greens MP would endear the locals to the party, and that may yet be true federally, but the cross tier swing to Greens that happened in Walter Taylor/Maiwar so far hasn’t happened there to all that great an extent. Michael Berkman’s term 1 performance should be reevaluated as he seemed to have driven change in a way that isn’t a default response to Greens representation.
Greens have recorded some small gains on primary vote so far in other federal overlap seats like Greenslopes, Bulimba and Ferny Grove. McConnell and Cooper falling short is likely with effective sandbagging and Jonty Bush in particular being a genuinely strong candidate. The Greens candidates didn’t seem like particularly strong choices. But again, I think maybe the story for Greens is how much Michael Berkman has been underrated personally along with his local branch.
When was the last time (at any election, anywhere in Australia) where the total seats on the crossbench declined by this much?
Just shut up and concede, you idiot. The election is over, stop the fucking scaremongering. To think that I had respect for him.
@ A A again they have only counted 23% of the vote and the 70%+ prepolls will probably switch it back to the lnp. I also wouldn’t write cairns off due the low count there also. Greens could also steal back South Brisbane due to the fact lnp could push llabor out of the 2cp. Cook could also flip. KAP votes splitting have like
Y save lui but kap is now a threat as I’ve they are able to overtake the lnp in gpfuture they will win that seat
FFS, the only concession speech I’ve seen that was worse than that was Trump’s.
@Scart exactly, I have no idea why Giggles didn’t just concede. Even Palaszczuk would’ve conceded by now.
ABC is again not calculating well for prepolls which will favour the LNP and bring s cereal seats back to them here. Some they declared will go back to doubtful and some doubtful ALP leads into LNP and the LNP leads as easy LNP gains.
@scart 2022 Victorian election went from 6 to 4
@scart trump never conceded didn’t you hear he won the election but it was stolen
I think it was clear miles wrote his speech 1-2 hours ago before prepolls.
Lnp 46 now
Expected 48
Per abc now
Anthony Green
At least wait until Antony Green is calling 47 before demanding a concession, let alone comparing this to Trump, who in fact called a victory without counting all the votes. Meanwhile just waiting until more votes are counted is apparently worse…
My minority government bet isn’t going to pay off 😐
BREAKING: ABC SAYS LNP WILL FORM MAJORITY, CRISAFULLI TO SOON SPEAK
I am waiting at LNP HQ for David to speak.
Looking at the results so far it is Possible that lnp
Does not win 47 seats.
But they will govern with a minority
@John Stop with this election fraud shit
@scart sry I should have put (sarcasm/joking)
@mick they will get 50+ seats prepolls will secure at least 5 more seats. Labor could still lose snpb back to the greens
@Adda I wasn’t actively comparing it to Trump, I couldn’t ever see Miles straight up trying an insurrection, but man. Crisafulli has likely won a TPP greater than Palaszczuk did at the last election, and has technically outdone the most recent opinion polling, he’s one seat short of a majority, and yet Miles still refuses to concede and continues fear-mongering about abortion, despite KAP saying that they would pull that bill. IIRC ScoMo conceded the last federal election before Labor even reached 70 seats, because it was very clear that he couldn’t win.
Objectively, that speech made Miles look like a sore loser. Definitely not a sore loser on Trump’s level, but still.
@john all g
Np;
Do you count Cook.as a lnp
Gain
BREAKING: LNP GAINS REDCLIFFE
On her sixth attempt, Kerri-Anne Dooley has been elected with 52.5% of the TPP vote (+8.6%). The LNP now have a bare majority.
WOAH! LNP WINS MAIWAR?
For the second time, the ABC computer has called Maiwar for the LNP.
I’m looking at Miles Insta rn, and the comments on that…
Unhinged is an understatement.
Lnp now in front in maiwar
Greens will win Maiwar. Even if Postal votes are brutal, the Brisbane early voting centre should save the greens.
Scart:
“When was the last time (at any election, anywhere in Australia) where the total seats on the crossbench declined by this much?”
Probably Vic last time, when the Nats won three seats off regional indies. They had a much better night than the Libs.
Before then, probably the 2011 NSW landslide, when the Nats did the same thing.
The fact that the LNP could gain Maiwar means Ryan is gone. And Paddington will go back to the LNP. And Walter Taylor will go back to being safe for the LNP.
Banana greens will likely retain south Brisbane too because if postal and prepoll favour lnp then Labor is out of the 2cp and greens retains on Labor prefernces